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Drought is No Problem for Oil Producers

circleofblue.org -- Farmers do without water while oil producers use what they want.

Curtis Creel is keen on saving water. He is the water resource manager for the Kern Water Agency, one of 29 agencies that hold water contracts with the California Department of Water Resources, the agency responsible for delivering water across California...

..In spite of the dwindling production from its aging oilfields, Kern County still accounts for 10 percent of the U.S.’s domestic oil production..

..producing a single barrel of Kern County crude oil (..getting it out of the ground) requires 320 gallons of water..

..refining a single barrel of oil – which yields over 40 gallons of various petroleum products – requires 1,850 gallons of water..

Tens-of-thousands of acres of farmland lie bone dry and fallow

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Submitted Sep 02, 2010 By: teafortwo

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teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:15,332 Points:923,055 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 2:50:34 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse "Man is a complex being: he makes deserts bloom - and lakes die." ~Gil Stern
MAC48 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:728 Points:499,925 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 2:45:50 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse Understand that the area of Southern California that this article is about is a desert. There has never been enough local fresh water to support any significant amount of farming. Fresh water has been imported to make the "desert" bloom from the Colorado River system (Lake Meade) and from Northern California for many decades. Without the imported fresh water, Southern California would cease to exist as we now know it. LA & San Diego would be mere remnants of their current populations and there would be almost no farming activity. When the oil reserves run out in Southern California and oil production ceases, you will still have the same problem of not enough local fresh water to support the current population and the farming activities that are there now without vast imports of someone else's fresh water. This is the result of making the "desert" bloom and all the people who wanted to live in & enjoy the wonderful Southern California climate.
Jarod13 Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,470 Points:1,048,855 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 1:09:35 PM Ignore Jarod13 Report Abuse FPLREP -- I couldn't agree with more...it is simply ridiculous to have farmland lie bone dry but it requires 320 gallons of water to produce a single barrel of oil not to mention that it takes another 1,850 gallons of water to refine the oil into 40 gallons of various petroleum products. I wonder what the "Anointed One" is going to do about this, since he wants this country to go "Green".
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:15,332 Points:923,055 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 12:40:02 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse Oil extraction and refinement requires a lot of water. This is putting a strain on regional water tables and water supplies. WATER is essential for life. OIL? Not so much. There are alternative energy resources.
findcheap Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:7,236 Points:1,542,995 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 10:45:24 AM Ignore findcheap Report Abuse need better water management policies,- a grand scheme not patchwork solutions
BartBuzz Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,523 Points:1,312,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 8:11:04 AM Ignore BartBuzz Report Abuse You can't get something for nothing. There's always a price...unless you are taking entitlements from the Government.
ERO Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:19,075 Points:3,214,985 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:47:38 AM Ignore ERO Report Abuse If you could only propel your auto with water....
billy44bo Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,183 Points:1,042,810 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:43:47 AM Ignore billy44bo Report Abuse in the refining of oil the plant would have to to reuse the water over and over again. cost too much to keep putting fresh water into the system
Zuman Champion Author New York Posts:3,883 Points:1,441,655 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:35:37 AM Ignore Zuman Report Abuse Theres got to be a happy medium.
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,206 Points:1,233,480 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:32:41 AM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse How can we all not find ways to stop using oil when possible.
Patch44 Champion Author Buffalo Posts:5,603 Points:1,356,785 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:32:00 AM Ignore Patch44 Report Abuse No surprise here. Which entity has more money, farmers or the oil companies? DUH!
torn8owx Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,313 Points:577,515 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:29:47 AM Ignore torn8owx Report Abuse In the West you need water rights. I'm curious to know how they got them & the cost as well
jimraehl Champion Author Utah Posts:4,755 Points:1,175,435 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:29:37 AM Ignore jimraehl Report Abuse Water is needed for everything.
dhawk24 Champion Author Maine Posts:5,535 Points:1,148,760 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:28:41 AM Ignore dhawk24 Report Abuse Interesting.
gsofrs Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,840 Points:773,075 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:28:08 AM Ignore gsofrs Report Abuse Water wars soon to get more attention.
LetItSnow Champion Author Hartford Posts:2,265 Points:674,280 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:27:50 AM Ignore LetItSnow Report Abuse Wow!
Skipper52 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:5,054 Points:1,130,250 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:27:28 AM Ignore Skipper52 Report Abuse But the oil companies pay more for there water so they get it and the framers don't. Now doesn't that make sense.
Ltdc Champion Author Long Island Posts:4,903 Points:1,222,465 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:26:21 AM Ignore Ltdc Report Abuse Never realized the production of oil was so water intensive.
QueenMother Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,179 Points:1,702,190 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:25:23 AM Ignore QueenMother Report Abuse This would only happen in California.
chesna Sophomore Author Scranton Posts:121 Points:559,650 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:23:55 AM Ignore chesna Report Abuse ok
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:5,548 Points:1,635,155 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:14:47 AM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse Sacrificing scarce water for petroleum is a sign of oil addiction.
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:6,634 Points:1,908,215 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:12:16 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse What a waste.
G.Lee Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:19,956 Points:2,947,605 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:10:39 AM Ignore G.Lee Report Abuse What to do? What to do?
rocket_ron Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,913 Points:1,527,945 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:07:09 AM Ignore rocket_ron Report Abuse Wow, that is a lot of water! They can reuse it though.
VetteFan Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,399 Points:1,566,580 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:07:08 AM Ignore VetteFan Report Abuse Fresh water is needed. Salt water corrodes piping.
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:5,414 Points:1,079,590 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:04:34 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse What about the desert solar panels? I though that was a "go"?.
zdn Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,722 Points:730,265 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:02:32 AM Ignore zdn Report Abuse they dont need fresh water do they
MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:12,404 Points:2,427,635 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 7:01:01 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse Now I suppose because of this that water rates will go up drastically.
no_monkey2002 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:6,213 Points:1,620,775 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:59:57 AM Ignore no_monkey2002 Report Abuse they need to pipe the water from the OCEAN TO the oil fields
fillerupyeoww Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,516 Points:1,181,870 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:57:47 AM Ignore fillerupyeoww Report Abuse People insist on living in dry climates. Whose fault is that?
Don1222 Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,802 Points:1,089,855 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:54:47 AM Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse Move on to alternative fuels.
rogerparry Champion Author Florida Posts:7,199 Points:1,448,980 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:54:37 AM Ignore rogerparry Report Abuse Our appetite for oil drives this practice.
FPLREP Champion Author Virginia Posts:5,735 Points:1,984,150 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:51:52 AM Ignore FPLREP Report Abuse My word for today:ridiculous.
abuck Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:6,247 Points:1,076,875 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:51:36 AM Ignore abuck Report Abuse We're doomed no matter what....
heardva Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:1,452 Points:252,690 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:49:46 AM Ignore heardva Report Abuse okay
satrn38mpg Champion Author Raleigh Posts:2,862 Points:612,610 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:48:20 AM Ignore satrn38mpg Report Abuse it all sounds like a waste of water >>
xantrani Veteran Author Maryland Posts:422 Points:106,455 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:47:54 AM Ignore xantrani Report Abuse lets see....no food, but a surplus (shall i say glut) of oil....yea, that makes sense.
bama56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,840 Points:962,070 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:46:20 AM Ignore bama56 Report Abuse money
RichardoB Champion Author Fayetteville Posts:5,625 Points:1,536,285 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:44:32 AM Ignore RichardoB Report Abuse Two articles from the same organization. This isn't news, it's opinion.
jmg144 Champion Author Maryland Posts:8,327 Points:2,490,845 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:43:09 AM Ignore jmg144 Report Abuse CA is messed up in many ways
gassy4u Champion Author Mobile Posts:2,498 Points:1,059,380 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:41:27 AM Ignore gassy4u Report Abuse Would it not be safe to say all water has been recycled? Satifactorily or not!
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:7,841 Points:2,273,865 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:40:42 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse We need to get off the oil addiction and move aggressively to natural gas as our primary fuel.
TerryLee Champion Author Ohio Posts:13,860 Points:2,633,970 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:40:05 AM Ignore TerryLee Report Abuse Only in Calif.. are these people for real?
mandoid Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:5,037 Points:1,083,080 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:38:25 AM Ignore mandoid Report Abuse is this the same CA that diverted water to save a fish?
mark1962 Champion Author Albany Posts:3,385 Points:800,865 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:36:41 AM Ignore mark1962 Report Abuse it should add to the cost.
Beau2140 Champion Author New York Posts:5,936 Points:1,190,260 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:35:27 AM Ignore Beau2140 Report Abuse Water has become an expensive commodity.
dar 1 Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,597 Points:335,265 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:35:23 AM Ignore dar 1 Report Abuse In the future food and water will be the new OIL.
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:12,920 Points:1,986,030 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:34:57 AM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse They are right about the water use but there are areas like the one south and east of San Antonio where you really don't want to drink the water even before they use it for producing oil. It is that bad.
DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:5,529 Points:1,120,185 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:33:40 AM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse ...and now we have the opposite of the previous story...where scarce water is wasted.
PADI Champion Author Ontario Posts:3,830 Points:1,003,125 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2010 6:33:21 AM Ignore PADI Report Abuse Do they recycle the water at all?